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something also about the fiscal cliff. something you haven't heard about is rural america is under threat from a major raise in taxes. death and state taxes. throw up the map. senator from wyoming put this out. 526,421 family farms threatened by the new death tax. mostly because assets are tied up in land. you're land rich and cash poor. this hurts a lot of people. >> greg: this plays in the old phrase buying the farm. >> dana: it plays in something i want to tease for friday, which is i am -- i got to buy the farm. get it. think we haven't heard that. >> bob: promote something? >> dana: on friday, tomorrow i'm going to vegas and i'm going to the national rodeo -- the national finals rodeo sponsored by wrangler. i went last year and i got to interview the rodeo queen. the new rodeo queen this year and talk to a few other people and chance to go to the rodeo and see my family. >> eric: that's nice. >> dana: that's it? "that's nice." >> kimberly: it sundays fun. you know how to ride a horse. >> bob: ride a bull. >> dana: we talked about greg's book for three weeks. >> kimberly: so
nowheresville in terms of negotiations on a fiscal cliff deal. take a listen. >> until we hear something from the republicans there's nothing to drafrt, so we can get things done quickly. i think it's going to be extremely difficult to get it before christmas but it done. be >> we're still waiting for the white house to identify what spending cuts the president is willing to make as part of the balanced approach that he promised the american people. >> and then there was this moment here at the white house at the press briefing where press secretary jay carney was pressed by reporters to say what it was that speaker boehner and the president were talking about during their meeting here at the white house on sunday. the reporters wanted to know if the specifics being discussion skused in that conversation are separate from the specifics being offered in the public dialogue. take a listen to what jay carney said. >> i'm trying to be incredibly opaque about the distinction. look. >> it's working. >> it's working. >> so at least he's man enough to admit he doesn't want to give us the answer to th
away in lansing. let me ask you, jessica, the fiscal cliff is something we have been talked about each and every day here on cnn, the president met with the speaker of the house and am i correct, has it been about a year since the two of them had a one on one face to face, so what are we learning detailwise from the meeting? >> the bottom line is the status appears to remain at stalemate. the white house is eressing the view that the president believes it is still possible to get to a deal, but they want to hear more -- they want to hear specifics from republicans on revenue and they have not heard that. that's what the white house was saying before the deal -- before the meeting last friday they were saying this. the speaker's office is saying they still want to hear from the white house on more details on spending cuts, also that is what the speaker's office was saying before the meeting last friday. so the message today is exactly what it was last friday. the meeting happened yesterday. on sunday. so we are where we were. does that mean that nothing happened in the meeting? no, ther
, andrew. >> let's talk about the fiscal cliff. i want to talk to you specifically about something else going on in the washington. you were no fan of the president in the run up to the election and there were so many people on wall street who frankly were not fans and were outspoken about it. now, there seems to be a move afoot within washington and some level on wall street to try to mend those fences. what's going on? can you take us behind the scenes a little bit? >> i think it's pretty clear we're supposed to be one country. we have a new president, we have a four year run and i think people have to find some common ground. i think the president is reaching out pretty aggressively in the context of trying to make connections to the other side to get a budget deal done which i think he's really very committed to wanting to do. >> when you look at the election results, and you look at where we are in this conversation about the fiscal cliff and raising taxes, do you say to yourself, that he has a mandate to raise tax rates or not? >> well, geez, i think he thinks he does in a certain
respond said fiscal cliff, that sounds like something i probably studied in school. no. this is new. this is something that they've just fresh baked up for us. >> brian: this generation made it up! >> gretchen: they'll be paying for it. >> steve: for a long, long time. our children and children's children, consider the amount of dent this president has run up. this could be good news. the president of the united states did speak with speaker boehner yesterday on the phone. we know nothing about the call except they talked on the phone. we do know that the last offer, the counteroffer was made by the republicans. they're waiting for the white house. the white house at the same time says come on, we don't have another counteroffer because your last offer was a stinker. you, republicans, need to come up with a new one. >> gretchen: the thing is, they're playing hard ball right now. the white house has sent out tim geithner, the treasury secretary, instead of the president actually, to lead the negotiations and when he was asked yesterday in an interview, tim geithner, that is, whether
the fiscal cliff? >> it reminds me about something i probably learned in school. but some type of cliff, the economy going pow. >> isn't that the government? this is embarrassing. >> brian: how many people really know what it is and what it means? we hit the streets. >> steve: indeed, and bob costas and his no spin zone to defend his half time gun control rant. what did he say and what does former nfl player think? he will join us live to react this hour. "fox & friends" hour two for thursday starts right now. >> gretchen: i thought the same thing that scarlet johansson was in times square answering ainsley's question. i thought what, a lucky day for steve and brian that yesterday they would have petra and today scarlet. >> brian: and the day before, victoria secret models. >> gretchen: what a week! >> steve: one of the young people when did respond said fiscal cliff, that sounds like something i probably studied in school. no. this is new. this is something that they've just fresh baked up for us. >> brian: this generation made it up! >> gretchen: they'll be paying for it. >> steve: fo
12% this year. so, what could go wrong? fiscal cliff. this is something weighing op consumer sentiment and we're starting to see it in the weekly -- look at this -- 39% said it would affect it some. they don't seem to have much faith in congress to fix it and any time except 11th hour and maybe a week into the new year and there's this payroll tax holiday that most people have been enjoying now for well over a year. almost two years now. it's about 20 for somebody who earns say $50,000, but they're getting extra because the payroll tax deduction has been changed a little. they're getting a break on that. but that goes away, people are going to have less money in their paycheck. i've been hearing from dwsh stating that theory re tayloi t they're concerned. a lot of people buy their holiday presents based on taxes and no one is really certain what is going on. >> yeah, absolutely. all right. christine romans for us this morning in new york. thank you, christine. >>> well, he is college football's most inspirational figure and his story is much different than most young men who
's house, is a reminder of something else, a fiscal cliff deadline that's personal here. >> i can't imagine funding being cut at this point, it will be tragic. >> chloe was in the hospital from two weeks, luke for three. >> contaminated food sickens about 48 million people a year. so the fda foot safety and administration service -- the budget cut translates to a combined $157 million. there's no word exactly what cuts would mean to expecter staffing. >> they're already stretched then when it comes to the inspection activities, they really need increased resources, and not fewers. >> agencies always say they're stretched. >> dean clancy is with freedom works, and says there is nothing to fear. >> dangerous public health and safety is an irresponsible scare tactic, especially when you realize these are not real cuts, these are reductions from anticipated increases in spending. >> to cut the budget for the agencies will significantly impact them today and tomorrow. >> you made that one, didn't you? >> tressa bennett and your kids are now healthy and food safety advocat advocates. >> they say
to support a compromise on the fiscal cliff. immelt knows about something about taking the heat. in our interview friday, he spoke at length about the consequences of not making a deal. and for those who say we can go over the fiscal cliff and it might not be such a bad thing, you say? >> i say there are people that don't have anybody that works for them. you know, in other words, we haven't been on this for two weeks or two days or two months. we've been working on this for 2 1/2 years. what happened in july of 2011 was ugly. i read stories now that say, you know, the president lost, or he shouldn't have done this. or speaker boehner did that. they both failed. you know, nobody won on that moment in time. it made us -- it hurt us inside and outside the country. so i would say that if this goes into next year, we ought to consider that failure. we ought to get these guys to do a deal that they know we can do and we've got to get them to do it now. and this is not just jeff immelt at ge speaking. this is really, i would say, the business community almost universally speaks with one voice
. >>> if washington can't keep us in this country from plunging off a fiscal cliff, there seems to be more at astake than many know. we know about the massive taxes and the big cuts to the military and entitlement programs, but there's something else that could happen, and it could directly impact the safety of the food you buy and the food you eat. here's cnn's emily schmidt with the details. >> i like this one. >> reporter: preparing for the holidays at their house is a reminder of something else just around the corner, a fiscal cliff deadline that is personal here. >> i just can't imagine funding being cut at this point. it would be tragic. >> she's worried mandatory budget cuts would hurt food safety inspection that's mattered to her since her twins were born in 1999. >> chloe was in the hospital for two weeks and luke for three. >> they got listeria poisoning from meat she ate while pregnant. they same it sickened 48 million people a year, 3,000 die. the fda and the usd a's food safety and inspection sfgs are charged with protecting the food supply. an 8.2% budget cut translating to a combined
,000, if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. again, there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest. >> and this ongoing political game of chicken is something one of the chairmen of the debt commission simply calls madness. >> when you have leaders of parties and people from the administration saying i think it will be to the advantage of the democrats to go off the cliff or i think it will be advantage to the republicans to go off the cliff or the president to go off the cliff, that's like betting your country. there's stupidity involved in that. >> willing to go over the cliff, i guess they are but they also don't believe republicans are going to go over the cliff. >> he can win politically but the costs, doesn't you agree, would be tremendous not only to him but to the economy and to our country. >> and we want to bring in and say good morning to congresswoman diane black, a republican from tennessee, a member of the house budget and ways and means committee. con
of the fiscal cliff negotiations are much closer than you may think despite what law makes say publicly. jackie calms of the "new york times" picked up on something that lawmaker tim cole said recently. >> the republicans should just declare victory and taking the 98% of the tax cuts that they agree on and work next year on tax reform and see if they can't get the top rate back down again. it's hard to think that that's not where they're going to end up so why not make it clean instead of ugly. >> i think it's true that many people are saying privatery what tom cole said publicly on the show. but they believe that the politically right thing to do right now is to cut that you are losses, let tax rates go up for the most wealthy and really try for significant tax reform so that 39.6% is going to be mute. >> so the good news is that negotiations do continue, there was a meeting today between president obama and house speaker john boehner. that happened at the white house today, we are frying to get more details, we're trying to get our white house chief correspondent jessica yellin on the phone a
concluded affair and we got in to it for understandable reasons. >> christin, something else on the fiscal cliff. a drop in confidence and zero u.s. economic growth with no agreement on this fiscal cliff and indeed a ripple effect in the eurozone and elsewhere. do you think the politicians understand the kind of seriousness of the game that they're playing at the moment? >> i think they do and a good sign is notice in the last day or two, you haven't been hearing as much come out of either members of congress or the white house. president obama right now is i think on the road in detroit. gave a speech today about the economy. but you're seeing a little bit less of the sort of back and fort we saw a weeking a with tim geithner putting out a plan and republicans releasing a letter publicly. i think negotiations of this kind best if they're happening without a lot of the public political posturing. i think that's the direction you have seen things go in the last few days so i'm hoping that's a good sign for things and taken seriously. >> i hope you're right. it is childish, i think. finally
try to pass something in the senate that would have put food stamps on the table for the fiscal cliff negotiations and failed in the senate. jenna: let me ask you that is it part of the fiscal cliff negotiations or are food stamps in their own column right now? >> reporter: he tried. it is considered an entitlement program so it has to be funded. he did try to get the specific measure passed in the senate and it failed. jenna: any response from the administration on this? >> reporter: we reached out to the white house on this and want to give them opportunity to explain or comment on the fact under president's first term food stamps are up 39%. amount of americans dependent on them. the white house directed us to the u.s. department of agriculture and oversees this program and other similar programs. here is what they told us. the increase in snap participation during the 2008 and 2010 pared of economic decline which include the recent recession was consistent during increase in previous periods of economic decline. senator sessions and others make a point. the math doesn't add up. as
cliff and what will be an agreement, ifs reached, that'll amount to something in the neighborhood of a couple trillion dollars. >> and the forced union states are looking for tte federal government to bail them out. but more important than that, the dems, the democrats don't want to lose the forced union states -- lou: well, i'm not talking about the forced union states now, i'm talking about every state in the union. and the fact is that we're talking about unfunded ppnsion liabilities of $4 trillion, mallory. and -- >> but much worse in the forced unions. lou: excuse me, if i may finish. >> i'm sorry. lou: $4 trillion that no one is paying attention to, how will it be resolved? >> it's tough to resolve, but it's much worse. the point i was trying to make is it's much worse in the forced uniin states, much worse. it's almost double. that's one of the issues. we're going to have a big problem resolving that. it's going to be a major problem with services that are absolutely necessary not being able to be kept up because of all these pensions that are unfunded. lou: all right. mall
this fiscal cliff which is a creation of congress. it's a bipartisan creation. this fiscal cliff is the result of the last fiscal cliff. >> bill: that put a date on there. >> yeah. >> bill: may extend the date that's what i think is going to happen. >> my hope is is that we can avoid the bad stuff. then we have to deal with the 16 trillion-dollar debt that $1 trillion a year in deficit spending. we have to solve that. that thing is not going to solve itself. >> bill: doesn't feel like the president feels the urgency that you feel. you are one of the leaders of the republican party whether you want to be or not. there you are. so you find yourself now trying to get the republican party reorganized and back into the populist column. ain't going to be easy for you, senator. because you have got to be the senator from florida and at the same time try to resurrect this party. >> well, it's -- but i think the people of florida have the same ax sights as the people of our country. i'm informed by my own background and my own experience in life my parents worked in the service industry. and, yet, they
input. this is something that the white house has proposed as part of their fiscal cliff proposal. it's a nonstarter for republicans. but he wanted to put it on the floor to show that even democrats don't support giving the president that kind of authority. he did that and harry reid turned around and said, let's see if we can do it with a simple majority for 51 votes and democrats it appeared had made sure they had that and then mitch mcconnell in return ended up objecting to the very thing he propose eed. take a listen. >> now the republican leader objects his own idea. i guess we have a filibuster of his own bill. >> so this was some maneuvering that went on. mitch mcconnell won the day when he proposed a vote overall on the entire fiscal cliff proposal and harry reid objected to it. it's a little bit of a back and forth going on in the midst of these talks that are now reopened. >> you can't filibuster your own bill. that makes no sense. >> apparently you can. >> thank god it's friday. thank you. we appreciate the update. >>> other stories making news that are not all crazy. >> i
to go off of the fiscal cliff . so would that be something that would factor in to trying to make progress in the first year of the term? >> yeah, that is a big gammle. it is being. either it is going to work and the republicans are going to come back and negotiate with him. or set us off in another recession and derail the second term before it starts. the president is taking a gammle there. it is posturing now. that is a big issue. either he will get entitlement reform and fiscal cliff done or go off of the tracks and he might not recover from it. >> gretchen: there is another scandal that happened before the election and still out there with a lot of unanswered questions. i am talking about benghazi, libya where four americans were murdered. news that the president may nominate united states un ambassador susan rice to secretary of state. how do you think it will play out? >> nomination fights to begin a second term is not a good thing. fdr needed senate approval and that derailed his first. president bush had the fight with john tower in the first term. not a great way to star
operation twist is coming to an end. b, because we have the fiscal cliff or fiscal gentle slope or whatever it turns out to be to negotiate and c, because we haven't found our legs in the u.s. and we clearly have some global headwinds coming in 2013. however, the thing about this qe in the u.s., unlike previous ones where they could see big economic problems, let's comfort the market with a really big number, this time we're going to do it month by month. solo the annual figures look very big, they're going to halt qe as long as it looks like there's inflation. >> which means there might not be much market reaction as investors realize that. >>> find out what travelers are still flocking to the shores and how much of that money contributes to eugdp. be back in a few minutes. can i ? i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on grou at fedex office. >>> these are the headlin
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to actually get something done to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> and what's going on in those negotiations that we don't know. >> exactly. so we going to talk to the man who may know right? >> the man who's wired in washington. >> exactly. bob woodward knows the white house and he's covering washington for years. he'll be on later this morning. >> announcer: this portion of "cbs this morning" sponsored by international delight coffee creamers. what's your i.d.? who thinks two is better than one? so all of you do. yes, for sure. now what's better? being able to shoot two lasers out of both of your eyes at the same time or just one laser out of one eye? [ all kids ] two! [ moderator ] okay, why? if it's just one beam -- okay, it does a little bit of damage. two beams -- it will make something explode! and that's more fun? yeah! and it's more powerful you're saying? yeah! [ male announcer ] it's not complicated. doing two things at once is better. and only at&t's network lets you talk and surf on your iphone 5. ♪ ♪ online outfit piccolo headphones buy now broadway show meg
, that is why we are not getting some of the movement which is movement on the fiscal cliff front or the economic directly saying the upside is warranted. david: they were thinking of apple as utility, something where people were betting on one of the reasons it has come down a lot because a lot of the margin bets made on apple are now disallowed because it is no longer a sure thing. it's what is happening to apple significant for all? >> what i would say is apple is the stock to watch tomorrow.3 there could be some considerations were they move their experiments but the long and short of it is tomorrow apple has closed on its lows. this could be an opportunity, this washed out all of those you just discussed that were leveraged, washing those out and could see tomorrow institutions come in because they would have to be helped. david: nothing is a sure thing. we learned that housing and now with apple. liz: he says watch for a bounce tomorrow, we will see if he is right. david: let's bring in the market panel. he is active etf comanager and the capital market research director. go
't try to attack what is an overall issue on to something that is happening right now, this fiscal cliff. i don't think that's the way to do it. what i will say, it's been pretty obvious that the war on drugs isn't working. we're still at work. we're not getting anywhere with it. just as where we were in iraq and we weren't getting anywhere. let's get out. so there has to be some change. there has to be some change. in california, we voted. of course, you can have a small amount on you and it's just a misdemeanor, like run ning a stp sign. we also put in a law for medicinal marijuana. i was for it. i've been for it. my mother-in-law died of cancer. she could have used it, for example. at the time, i said, it also gives us an opportunity to do the pilot project of how do you do this? do you collect taxes on it? what's the local regulation? how do you sell it, et cetera? the unfortunate thing of the experience in california is that the federal government has come right in the middle of it. it has gone to landlords and said, listen, if you don't get these additional marijuana places out, we
to the fiscal cliff. >> no news. zip. still no agreement. we'll let you know if something significant happens. >>> developing now, hugo chavez undergoing surgery in cuba today. an operation that we're told was quote/unquote delicate. his health is a bit of a mystery, but we do know he had surgery last year to remove a cancerous tumor. still not yet clear what kind of operation he had today. updates as we get them. >>> broad daylight, on a crowded new york sidewalk, someone walks up to a man and shoots him, point blank range. today, a race for answers. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. >>> move over, america. a sobering new report suggests china is getting ready to surpass the u.s. economy. >>> plus -- >> this is the place where lisa was buried. >> cnn goes inside the search for da vinci's famous muse. ♪ ♪ [ engine revs ] ♪ [ male announcer ] oh what fun it is to ride. get the mercedes-benz on your wish list at the winter event going on now through december 31st. [ santa ] ho, ho, ho! [ male announcer ] lease a 2013 e350 for $579 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. [ sniffs ]
for the american economy. >> an added wrinkle to the fiscal cliff talks is the debt ceiling, with the government on pace to reach its borrowing limit early next year. the white house stated its position on the 14th amendment, which some theory rise is a way for the president to raise the debt limit independently, should republicans attempt to use it as a negotiating tool. >> i can say that this administration does not believe that the 14th amendment gives the president the power to ignore the debt ceiling, period. >> the fiscal cliff talks reached a new low yesterday when, somehow, the new york jets got dragged into it on the senate floor. >> it's not one of my favorite teams, but it's really, really fun to watch, and that's the new york jets. coach ryan, he's got a problem. he has three quarterbacks, sanchez, he's got tim tebow, he's got another guy. he can't decide who their quarterback is going to be. that's the same problem republicans are having. romney's gone, but he's still in the background. we have mcconnell and we have boehner. who is the quarterback, mr. president? who is the quarterb
. the fiscal cliff is a name that the media came up with, but some of us have been saying for years, you have got to stop the out of control federal spending or you're going to end up at this point, we're there. >> congress mon cole, i just want to remind folks of something that you have said about the middle class tax cuts and letting them go on and also your reply to that. i just want to play that to get our viewers up to speed. >> in my view, we all agree that we're not going to raise taxes on people that make less $250,000. we should just take them out of this discussion right now. >> he has his idea, i don't want to raise taxes on anybody. >> is the split i think inside to the republican caucus? >> i think it's more of a discussion on tactics. none of us want to raise the rates on anybody, but the reality is, the rates go up on everybody at the end of the months. to me, i would get that off the table now, so they don't worry about it. i think those people are actually the president's leverage in these debate. it's the democrats going around screaming your taxes are going to go up if repu
're going to have the issues of the fiscal cliff. i would say for something like mcdonald's, though, it does historically trade with a staple and could benefit from consumer tradedown. i would be less concerned about it specifically for that company. but you are right, we do continue to see declining trends in cruise, and las vegas gambling, and other segments we do cover. >> specifically on the restaurants, it was raised by the journal over the weekend, is there a structural change now, having gone throthe recession about the willingness of people to pay for this sort of luxury? do you think that we've had a substantial change that could last for years? >> i think people have better options. they have anything from the salad bar at whole foods. they can trade up, they can trade down. they have very good options for eating at home. i think the problem is, that the pie isn't growing that much. you have about a half a point of population growth. and you have expansion in all types of food categories. that competes for people's dollars. you're right, people are pretty value sensitive and they'r
the corner, a fiscal cliff deadline that is personal here. >> i just can't imagine funding being cut at this point. it would be tragic. >> reporter: she is worried mandatory budget cuts would hurt food safety inspection. that mattered to her since her twins were born in 1999. >> she was in the hospital for two weeks, luke for three. >> reporter: she and her babies got list teara poisoning from meat she ate while pregnant. contaminated food sickens about 48 million people a year, 3,000 people die. so the fda and the usda's food safety and inspection service are charged with protecting the food supply. an 8.2% budget cut translates to a combined 157 million dollars. there is no word exactly what cuts would mean to inspectors staffing. >> both fda and usda are stretched pretty thin when it comes to the inspection activities in the food safety work they do. they really need an increased resources and not fewer resources. >> agencies always say they're stretched. >> reporter: dean clancy is with freedom works, an organization that promotes smaller government and he says the cuts leave not
. >> these are things that we have been talking about for years. the fiscal cliff is a name that the media came up with, but some of us have been saying for years, you have got to stop the out of control federal spending or you will end up at this point, we're there. >> i just want to the remind folks of something you said about the middle class tax cuts, i just want to the play that. >> in my view, we all agree that we're not going to raise taxes on people that make less than $250,000, we should just take them out of the discussion right now. >> he has his idea, i don't want to raise taxes on anybody. >> it seems to me now this is the split inside the republican caucus -- >> i don't think so. i think there's more discussion about tactics than it is any different. none of us want to raise the rates on anybody, but the rates on everybody go up at the end of the month. since we degree with the democrats on 98% of the american people, to me, i would just get that off the table now so they don't worry about it. i the those people are the president's leverage. it's the democrats going around screaming your
sandy and anxiety over the fiscal cliff affecting job growth. adp showing the private sector created 115,000 positions last month. the expectation was about 125,000. it comes ahead of friday's key employment report and to talk about that and more, our senior economics reporter steve leisman joins us from washington. steve, we'll talk about your interview with secretary geithner in a moment but let's talk about those economic numbers. what about today's, what about friday's? >> before i get to the adp number, i have new information i've been able to report on the way down here from new york. that is, be prepared on friday for potentially, especially in the household survey that creates the unemployment number. be prepared for potentially big sandy effects. let me tell you why. we had an early thanksgiving this year. 11/22. the 22nd of the month. what happens on those kind of years is that the bls moves back the survey week from the 12th which is the normal survey week in this case, to the 5th. what was the fifth? it was the week that really the worst effects of sandy in terms of people no
have something to do with the fiscal cliff. there's a bit of a slowdown there. the economy is moving along, not as robustly as they'd like it to be, which is why they extend this to make money cheaper. >> what does that mean for businesses in terms of confidence? >> the first gauge we get is to see how markets are doing. there's a bit of a rally on the stock market as a result. you can never trust what happens immediately after these announcements because it could be traders doing things. dow subpoena a quarter there. you can see 27 basis points right now. what it means is the same thing it meant until now. we have long-term low interest rates. it's cheap to borrow money in america. it's not necessarily easy it to borrow money. lending standards are still high, and many businesses as we have seen that either have cash or access to credit are not making decisions until they have some certainty about what government is going to do. we may get that certainty as soon as we get a fiscal cliff deal, maybe january or february by the time we know what will happen. that could work. if everybo
session and they want the focus to be on the fiscal cliff. some conservatives did have issues regarding abortion and what it meant for the rights of the disabled while they were in the womb. there were a number of concerns. when i saw bob dole get wheeled in by his wife, former senator elizabeth dole, my heart melted. it meant a lot to people like john mccain, but that does not mean that some of these issues that some of these republicans had were not credible and are not -- we should just say, okay. there's a lot of treaties that have really pretty sounding name but the devil is in the detail. and i think that's what some of them felt when it came to this treaty. >> ana navaro and maria -- go ahead, maria, quickly. >> i hope ana is right and if republicans really want to do this right they will have another chance in the next congress and this is something where americans really need to step up. what happened yesterday was gop fear of the tea party. every single senator that voted against it was most likely up in 2014 except for one. >> okay. ana navaro, maria cardona, thank you so muc
scott is an upand coming star . jimdemint's personal pick. >> steve: jay carny. the fiscal cliff thing. the average person really has no idea what that stands for. if you watch that. >> brian: you much the package. >> steve: no idea. something we learned about in school . i forgot about it. jay carny revealed yesterday. gretchen just said it is not a tax problem it is the way they waste our money. jay carny said deficit reduction is not the goal. are you kidding? here he is. >> deficit reduction is not the goal here. the reason to get our fiscal house in order and the reason to pass a deficit reduction package that is balanced and allows for economic growth is to put our economy on a sustainable fiscal path which again, in itself produces positive economic benefits and revenues are part of it this. the president put forth and entitlement reforms and savings gleaned from our health care entitlement programs need to be a part of it. the president has been specific about that. >> brian: he's talking about generalitiys about unnamed cuts. jay carny goes on to admit if the president's propo
? >> i am very confident that we will at birth the fiscal cliff. the only issue is how much of this will we get done. >> i am not at all confident, actually. just hearing what adam said does not make me any more confident. it is on schedule to rock itself and very, very soon. when i hear this kind of stuff that we are trying to push granny over the cliff, that is absolute garbage and that will not take a deal. we have to reduce the deficit. you have to do that by reforming medicare and medicaid. you have to deal with all of them. when i hear my democrat colleagues say maybe we will do something with medicare card ten years away, that will not work. connell: we will wrap it up for today. thank you to both of you. >> thank you. dagen: investors suffering from a little fiscal cliff fatigue. kevin flanagan says do not look away. this could look really ugly. hey, kevin. looking at the yield on the ten year period about 1.65%. it does not look like there has been any serious market reaction . what could happen if we get to this deadline and nothing happens? >> the treasury market
kids and the next generations. and on the right the road on the right is the fiscal cliff. really that the is choice if we don't do something about it we are going to go anyway. do you run over the kids with the car or do you take the other road which is not a good one but better than running over your kids fiscal cliff. it's a hard choice. >> but if we don't do it, if we don't go over the fiscal cliff the democrats will never cut a dime in spending. >> why would the democrats want change? if the bush tax cuts are going to expire they are saying this is great because this means the rich are going to pay more money, we are going to have more money to spend. they are already spending a the lo. they are saying why would we want change? this is great we have more money to spend. >> nancy pelosi saying why aren't we voting on middle class tax cuts? get to the other stuff. put this up for a vote: listen to nancy pelosi. we are not here to pass the middle income tax cut why are we here to not deat a time the middle income tax cut. could it be that the republicans are holding the middle i
are willing to compromise to avert the fiscal cliff. what are the people at home thinking of their actions. we have a pri view for a poll that debuts tonight. part of that is compromising what folks want to see from the lawmakers. >> a lot of americans want to see compromise. according to the poll, 65% want a compromise balanced deal to reduce the deficit. even if they have to reduce the entitlement program like medicare and social security and the republicans on have to support increase in tax rates for the wealthy. of course you were playing a lot of clips from people open to compromise. it does seem to be the broad parameter that want a balanced deal. that's what john boehner and president obama are currently arguing about. par are it's interesting, mark. you and the team noted the confusion, if you want. maybe because of the leadership. the headlines and the ap has the headline fiscal cliffs appear to be stalled and the hill's headline edge towards the deal and deficit reduction negotiations. are both true? >> both are true and you have to look at the totality of the story. today is wednes
before we could possibly go over the fiscal cliff. both sides are reacting this weekend. but one prominent democrat today suggesting he's more confident a fiscal cliff deal will get done. >> three days ago i would have said that the chances of something being worked out were at best 20%. i feel a little bit more comfortable believing that something is going to be worked out, give it about a 70% chance. the fact that boehner and the president have pretty much gotten to a point where they'll be sitting down trying to work this out as opposed to a lot of cooks in the kitchen, i think that's helpful. >> the president has the upper hand on the politics right now. i mean, there are more people who make less than there are in the top 1%, top 5% or whatever. but will it create jobs? and while the president has spent most of this negotiation process talking about taxes, he hasn't talked about cuts as much as we want to see. >> joining me now, congressional reporter for roll call meredith shiner and washington bureau chief for "usa today" susan page. susan, you heard congressman cummings t
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